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Marshmellow tincture chemistry Help!

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Marshmellow tincture chemistry Help!

Post by Inti on March 25th 2008, 5:56 pm

If this happened to anyone please tell me what you did to correct it or a better way of tincturing.
So I tinctured Marshmallow as per Richo's instructions, only using 25% alcohol in the menstrum. I now have pressed it out and it is very gelatinous too thick to put in a bottle and to use a dropper. So my thought was to add alcohol to it to water it down without lowering the alcohol % so it will still preserve. As soon as the alcohol hit the tincture it hardened even more. so now I have a gelatinous goo with a harder gello like clump suspended in it. I know there is a chemistry mistake here but not sure what. maybe I was supposed to add a mixture of water and alcohol with the same ratio of what the menstrum was originally.


any thoughts??


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Post by minimom on March 26th 2008, 8:10 pm

Do you have The Herbal Medicine-Maker's Handbook by James Green? Maybe you have the situation he describes in the section Ethyl Alcohol, pp. 85-86.

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Re: Marshmellow tincture chemistry Help!

Post by Inti on March 26th 2008, 8:35 pm

I'll check that out.

I emailed Gail and got thi reply...


"don't ya just love those mucopolysaccrides......
first time I made it I couldn't get it out of the bottle.
whatever you add you will need to pour all into a running blender to mix.
I have never made it with such low ETOH - my teachers used 40-50% dry(!) but I have done fresh 1:2 50%, wilted 1:3 45% and I have made a dry glycerite 1:5 50% glycerine. gees, in my notes - in almost every case I made notes about how thick it was and what i did - added glycerin once, white wine once, more menstruum - but always into the vita mix.
this also happens when I add the tincture of echinacea to the decoction of the ech marc. clumparama. vita mix to blend. And then when I make the cold and flu Rx and add the ech to the ceonothus - clumps again. I have to blend the formula after pouring.
It is all good news - getting those immune factions is good just messy. "

I ended up adding water and it smoothed it out but I'll need to try something different the next time. Obviously it soundds like a common issue


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